Conversation #3: Judaism and the Jewish Question, Parts 1 & 2

Judaism and the Jewish Question, Part 1
This Conversation was conceived because the topic is a very important one (which is even more relavant today than in the past two centuries), yet, it is never talked about. Thanks to the Hollywoodism Conference, we had three writers, researchers and intellectuals who have each spent many years working on this very issue, and so I thought it would be good to talk to all three of them together. These were Mark Weber, Michael Jones and Herve Ryssen. I asked my friend Kevin Barrett to join the conversation in case a moderating influence was necessary, and to play the role of “the Devil’s Advocate”, if you’ll pardon the expression. He did not do too well, as you will see.

Mark began by asking the question as to why anti-Semitism existed? It is a question which we would come back to throughout the Conversation. But Herve said that we need to know what Judaism is first, before we can answer that question. He quoted a Jewish historian who says “We crossed the centuries and survived while other nations died because we have a goal that others don’t have.” Thus, it is important to know their aim, which Herve characterizes as: the encouragement of multi-ethnic societies, the promotion of democracy, tolerance of everything, and always, Peace on Earth: Shalom. When peace is restored, the Messiah will come: Jewish Messianism. A world of peace is a world without conflict. And in order to suppress war between nations, one must militate for the suppression of nations and borders.
In order to suppress conflict between religions, one must militate for the suppression of religion.
In order to suppress social conflict one must militate for the suppression of social classes and the natural social order (as in Marxism). To bring about peace between the two gender results in feminism and the apology of homosexuality and pornography – in short, the leveling of all functional differences between the two genders and all differences in sexual identity. When everything is equalized and destroyed, what will remain? Judaism.

Mark goes back to attempt a topology of the Jewish Question. He states that Jews focus on what has happened and ignore the question of why it has happened, claiming that they are persecuted for their virtues and not for their vices. George Wills says “it has something to do with Christianity. It is not what they do but what they are [that is our problem with them”. Mark characterizes this evaluation as absurd and “an obfuscation and mystification of the issue”, stating another absurd take, this one by Jean Paul Sartre: “Jews would not exist except that non-Jews think of them as being different”. Mark observes, “It is difficult to get clear answers to this question”.

Michael states that the Jewish Question began with Napoleon’s emancipation of the Jews, granting them equal rights to citizenship when citizenship had a greater significance than it does today. Mark counters that anti-Semitism existed in Roman times in Alexandria; in Persia (citing the Book of Esther); and is clearly seen to be pervasive by reading such texts as the Acts of the Apostle, so that Michael’s characterization is ahistorical. Kevin raises the important question as to why the phenomenon did not exist in the in the Islamic world; and Herve states that it was mainly associated with usury and that it therefore has very concrete causes. Michael states that there was no usury in the Islamic world, and Kevin reminds us that Islamic Spain was the best situation the Jews had in history (except their situation in the US today). I mention that the Jewish Question did not arise in the Middle East as Jewish power was checked in the Islamic world, to which Mark responds by saying that religion is the primary element of identity in the Islamic world, not ethnicity or nationality and that Christianity has not been as successful in checking Jewish power due to their ambivalence on the issue of the separation of church and state; and that national identity has been predominant over religious identity in the West.

Michael states that the crux of the issue is bound up in economics and in the relaxation on the constraints on usury; in 1890 Catholic Church stated in an analysis of the French Revolution 100 years on that any country which turns against Christian laws will end up being ruled by Jews. Ratzinger’s book of the same period, Jewish Business Practices, makes the case that the Jews will take over if Christian laws against usury are not enforced. At this point, Kevin, playing the Devil’s Advocate, asks: how can Jews be successful if their business practices were so bad? I take the opportunity to nudge Michael back to the basic underlying cause, which in Michael’s mind, I know to be the Jewish “revolutionary spirit”. Is this cause ontic? I ask. “The Jew is at war with being because of his rejection of Christ; and so he feels the constant need to have to “correct” being (reality), and this is the Tikkun Olam (healing the world) that you mentioned.” Michel continues, Rabbi Lucas Israel Noyman has stated – this is a rabbi talking now, not me: “the Jews have supported every revolutionary movement in European history”.

Mark answers the question as to why the Jewish character is unconformist, and whether it is a cosmic constituent element of their character: Theodore Hertzel, in The Jewish State, answers the question as to why anti-Semitism exist: Jews consider themselves separate to the people among whom they live, and therefore promote interests that are different than those of the peoples of their host countries. The solution he proposed, therefore, is that they should be a normal people and have a country of their own.
Herve adds Norm Goldman’s explanation of what Judaism is: it is not a race, because there are Jews of various races; it is not a religion, because there are theist, atheist and agnostic Jews; and it is not a merely culture, because it is obviously more than that. Herve: “Every Jewish intellectual says that it is mystery; and they add that maybe, we are chosen by God. Herve goes on to talk about Jewish psychology and Jewish identity, citing, for example, Polanski’s Chinatown, and its projection of incest and the oedipal complex onto the goyim.

The Devil’s Advocate: Rabbi Yisroel Weiss, the anti-Zionist rabbi, says that ‘the Chosen People’ means that they are held to a higher standard. Jews have sometimes succeeded at achieving this higher standard, and sometimes not. I asks the panel to respond to Kevin’s point in terms of Jewish practice today. Mark makes the compelling point that Israel compels Jewish people around the world to take a position regarding the question of Palestine and that this results in the Jewish Question becoming a World Question. Herve responds by saying the existence of the Jewish state is better and worse for the Jews: worse for the reasons Mark stated, but better because it is a refuge for Jewish scoundrels and criminals, as Israel does not extradite to other countries. I say that the good Rabbi Weiss’s position does not even address the issue of actions of the Jewish people as a whole (though it might be that it is true on an individual level…)

Michael chimes in, saying the Cohen Brothers film, A Serious Man, which is about living in a Jewish ghetto in Lithuania, makes the point that the rabbis are the enemies of the Jewish people as they keep them in bondage. Michael continues, “The Jews are thus in a dilemma: kill the rabbi and your damned, don’t kill him and he will lord it over you. The Jews are in a bad situation. And the fundamental cause of this situation that they are in is the Talmud, which is the basis of their religion. And the Talmud is a wicked book. There is something fundamentally wrong, and you either wake up to it or you don’t; or, alternately, you dedicate yourself to the evil that is codified and institutionalized in the Talmud.” Michael also states that “the shelf-life of Zionism is about to run out,” citing Norman Finkelstein’s latest book as an example, in which Finkelstein claims that Jews are turning against Zionism. Mark reminds Michael that the conflict predates the Talmud as is already extant in the Old Testament, which places the Jew in a special position relative to the rest of humanity. Michael tells Mark he is “arguing with God”, making the logical error of responding with scriptural rather than rational proofs to a non-believer (of the Bible being the infallible word of God), and the discussion degenerates into a debate between theistic and agnostic positions which confuses rational and scriptural evidence, but not before Kevin asks Michael whether it is not just possible that the Moselms have it right on this one, and that the Bible has been corrupted when it gives the Jews this special status? Michael says that he “has to” believe that the Bible is the word of God. How it is possible for the custodians of the Old Testament to maintain it in its primordial purity, yet be able to come up with the Talmud which is so “wicked” and corrupt is a question that I do not give voice to, as Michael has to leave for another engagement.

I try to have the experts satisfy my curiosity on Satanic Cults and Freemasonry and their ties, if any, to Judaism. Mark says that those are not as powerful elements in society as they were in the 18th and 19th centuries, and advises me not to dwell on this aspects. Instead, he prefers to talk about “a pattern of lies and deception that is erected by Jewish power, but this power will not last, and that will mean a lot of suffering and death.” My paraphrase. Mark continues, “We live in a society that demands a Judaeo-centric view of the world… the whole notion of a war on Iran would serve no one’s interest other than that of the Jews…. The whole world knows that this threat made by Jewish leaders serves only the interests of the Jews and that it would be a catastrophe for everyone else in the world.”

But Kevin, who has been itching in his seat, abdicates his anointed role, and takes up the topic of Satanic cults again. According to the Devil’s Advocate, the Church of Satan and other satanic cults have penetrated the highest levels of the US military using pedophile blackmail rings; J. Edgar Hoover who ran the US was in turn run by his blackmailer, Mayer Lansky; the Devil’s Advocate reveals Skull and Bones initiation rituals in the Crypt in Yale University for Bush and Kerry, the details of which I will spare you, gentle reader, but which you can hear and watch in Technicolor coming right out of the horse’s Advocate’s mouth, who also adds into the mix Christopher Bollyn’s contention that Freemasonry is indeed pulling all these strings and that it is ultimately controlled by the B’nai B’rith, which is a Jewish Freemasonic lodge in New York.

Mark recovers from this broadside by stating that the agenda of Jewish power is not a secret (though there could well be secret machinations over and above what is discussed openly), and it isto increase their power. This agenda invariably includes policies which entail the destruction of everyone else’s cultural heritage, racial heritage, ethnic heritage, and religious heritage; policies which, even if the intent is unconscious, has the effect of reducing people to atomized individualistic people who are easily controlled, and who cease to be human in any real sense because they have lost their essential human social nature and dimension.

I then nudge Kevin into telling the story of Colonel Aquino, a high-ranking US Army psy-ops officer, and the man who was kicked out of the Church of Satan for being too evil.

Mark then returns from this levity to agree with Hertzel on the Jewish Question: Jews regard themselves as different than other people, and therefore have interests that are different and at odds with those of the people in whose countries they live. Herve then talks about Jewish paranoic messianism. Making money is the best means to increase Jewish power, and Jews feel it is necessary to have this power so that they can engage in pre-messianic activity which will usher in the coming of their messiah. The Conversation ends with an open discussion on various Jewish issues, mainly led by Herve: Incest and Freudian psychoanalysis. The Simon Weisenthal Center’s outrageous lies. Soap and Lampshades (you bet!). The Koran’s excoriation of (certain?) Jews. Jewish hatred for humanity and their agenda of destruction. Mark ends with the Jewish obsession with themselves, and its projection onto the US, equating this to a hijacking of a nation’s psychology and spirituality.


Judaism and the Jewish Question, Part 2

The idea behind this little session was to have a continuation of the discussion which we had in The Jewish Question, but getting deeper, with just two participants, Michael Jones and Herve Ryssen. Though it is not without its high points, some of which are important in themselves, it cannot, I think, be said to have been entirely successful. I take full responsibility for this, as I was not as familiar with each participant’s oeuvre as I should have been.

We begin with Michael recounting a funny story about William Kristol’s tongue-in-cheek piece talking about the Neocons, where he says that “Neo means new and Con means Jew.” On a more serious note, he goes on to tell us what the impetus was for his 1,200 page opus, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Affect on World History: “[…I realized that] the entire foreign policy apparatus of the most powerful nation on the face of the earth is in the hands of a few people belonging to a tiny minority of people in the US…”

So what is a Jew? Michael: “A rejecter of Christ; liars; members of the Synagog of Satan (1 Rev. 2); by rejecting Christ, the essential character of the Jew became revolutionary.” Herve: Judaism is a culture but not just a culture; a religion but not just a religion, an ethnicity made up on many ethnicities. They say it is a mystery, an enigma. And – they always add this – maybe… we are chosen by God. Essential characteristics: Paradox; Revenge; destruction of the social order: revolutionism; hope and expectation of the messiah; peace (shalom); Iconoclasm; encouragement of multiculturalism, immigration and race-mixing; healing the world (tikkum olam); Ambivalance. Herve continues: the Jew is always talking about Peace (Shalom). They really want peace. No more war between nations, religions, races, traditions, genders, social classes. And so, [this is the key to understanding the Jewish dynamic:] if you want to prevent war between nations, you need to eliminate nations: no more borders… one currency; the suppression of religious tradition, functional gender equality, feminism, class equality. So the Jewish project is Shalom: Peace on Earth. And it is an activist messianic project, because it is only when this peace is realized on Earth that the Messiah will come. It is an ushering in of the Messiah, or, to use Eric Voegelin’s phrase as popularized by William F. Buckley, it is a project to “immanentize the eschaton”. The essence of Judaism is to destroy everything that is not Jewish, and when all will have been destroyed, what will remain is Judaism.

Michael talks at some length about the creation of the NAACP & the Black-Jewish Alliance; about how the NAACP was run by Jews, as was Martin Luther King (with “Jewish money”); and about the conflict that the NAACP had with Marcus Garvey. And how the whole edifice of the Black-Jewish Alliance came crashing down when Harold Wright Cruse’s The Crisis of the Negro Intellectual (1967) was published. And how the homosexual was chosen as the negro’s replacement by Jewish power as the new revolutionary avant-guard. “Whenever you weaken the majority [culture], the minority is stronger; that’s the Jewish policy. And that’s the purpose of homosexual marriage… the weakening of everyone else’s marriage.”

I ask Michael to discuss the Jewish definition of freedom. Michael responds by saying that one cannot and should not expect there to be such a thing because “There is no Jewish [positive] philosophy. The Talmud is the absolute antithesis of reason. There is nothing rational about it. It is negative and corrosive.” He then goes off on an aside about his friend and Jewish convert to Catholicism, Israel Shamir on the Jewish control of the Art world, which is a sham, because “they know nothing about art”. Herve says he likes Jewish art because it is a window into the Jewish psyche; it mirrors Jewish ambivalence and the absence of order. Then he talks about their messianic mission of the unification of the world, and various neuroses which he detects in the Jewish psyche at clinical levels: megalomania, selective amnesia, hysteria.

Michael says that now that the Jews have destroyed every aspect of Christianity, they are going after the natural moral order: man and wife uniting in marriage. “Because the more we destroy your world, the better we feel. The weaker you are, the more secure we feel.” “Extrapolate that to Iran,” he says. “Iran is not playing by the rules. Your women have to be turned into prostitutes and wage slaves. You have to promote homosexuality as the ideal form of behavior.

And so on, for about another fifteen minutes, until we are all exhausted and break off.

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